Tech Guide

Gaming PC Philippines: Php 40k Ryzen 1600 and RX 580

Gaming PC Philippines:  Php 40,000 Ryzen 1600 and RX 580 Gaming PC and Workstation

Hi GameBuildPC Builders, Kevin here! Welcome to May 2017 Build Guide worth 40k PHP Ryzen 6-core Gaming PC with RX 580.

Some of you from facebook.com/gamebuildpc page asks me how to build a PC using the newest Ryzen CPU with and without CPU. Hold on for sec to make it clear for everyone Ryzen CPU doesn’t have an integrated gpu core. So if you’re planning to build a PC without a GPU, Ryzen isn’t for you. You might consider buying A10 series apu here: A10 Series APU for PC.

So without further ado, let’s dive in to our 40k PHP Ryzen Gaming PC for 2017:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.20-3.60Ghz 6-Core Processor – (affiliate link) View here

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 was built with six cpu cores ready to handle today’s computing tasks, for gaming, even for rendering and video editing purposes.

Many people argue what’s the best budget cpu that can handle ultimate task and has a future-proof capability. Well my friends, here’s what you’re looking for.

For me, AMD Ryzen 5 particularly this 1600 6-core CPU has a huge advantage compare to Intel’s i5 7th Gen 4-core CPU.

Although the latter has higher FPS in latest games compare to Ryzen 5 well it is because game developers optimized their games using Intel CPU resources, the future capability of Ryzen is epic. Why? you might ask, AMD promises that it will support AM4 socket up to 2020 and is not planning to replace the socket until DDR5 and PCI Express 4.0 are available.

So we can expect to play future games without having to worry about bottleneck issue with the future GPU and sooner or later we will reap the benefits of having 6-core because game developers will use the Ryzen’s resources.

 

GPU: Gigabyte RX 580 4GB Gaming (GV-RX580GAMING-4GD) – (affiliate link) View here

Many of you are looking to spend around 10k-12k GPU on a new graphics card. Well to make this clear, if you’re “upgrading” from your good ol’ PC setup possibly from last decade, Gigabyte RX 580 4GB is absolutely great option to install on your new PC setup.

Kev, why not the 8GB version? you might ask. It still performs better, GPU performance depends on far more than the amount of VRAM available. With that logic, a GTX 1070 should perform the same as an RX580 8GB, which it obviously doesn’t.

And Kevin with that explaination, why not the GTX 1060? you might ask. The RX 580 4GB doesn’t have less stream processors than the 8 GB unlike the GTX 1060 3 GB vs the 6 GB with the 3 GB having less CUDA cores.

So Kevin, when should I buy the 8GB model?  you might ask. If you’ll be playing at over 1080p. I’d recommend pushing for the 8GB model.

 

Motherboard: MSI B350M Bazooka – (affiliate link) View here

People asks me on facebook.com/gamebuildpc page what motherboard to choose. It’s overwhelming to think what to suggest because there’s a lot of cheap and expensive options.

If you’re a budget builder and want to build a PC using a motherboard with a fancy and expensive RGB lighting that doesn’t do anything, SLI/Crossfire and a bunch of USB 3 and SATA ports that you wouldn’t need then you’re not a budget builder after all.

A budget builder want something that is reliable, cheap and supports Ryzen CPU. MSI B350M Bazooka is perfect for a budget builder. It supports main functionality of a motherboard. MSI B350M Bazooka is a VR-Ready and which can also do minor overclocking, supports M.2 storage and RAM slot capacity up to 64 GB.

If you’re an enthusiast builder/gamer, you’ll choose X370 series motherboard for more overclocking power.

 

RAM: GSkill Ripjaws V 8GB Dual DDR4 3200  – (affiliate link) View here

Before I would always recommend the 8GB variant either to buy 8GB single/dual stick and add another stick later on. But now, greater than 8GB is over kill. Unless you’re a video editor that uses Adobe Premiere, AutoCAD and other rendering software. 16GB up to 32GB might be the sweet-spot for you.

And for budget builder gamer that want to play Dota2, CSGO, BF1, GTA5, Overwatch and latest 2017 games. You might need the 8GB DDR4 3200 Mhz RAM.

Why highlight the 3200 Mhz? What is that?  is it speed?. you might ask.

Gaming in Ryzen CPU benefits with faster RAM. 3200Mhz seems to be sweet spot right now since it’s not that much expensive than other frequency and it works for Ryzen somewhat well and believes further gains in performance will come via game optimization in the future.

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB WD10EZEX – (affiliate link) View here

PSU: Seasonic S12II 520W 80PLUS Bronze – (affiliate link) View here

CASE: Tecware F3 Mini Tower Gaming Case usb3.0 – (affiliate link) View here

The rest of the build is always depends on your preference. I don’t want to recommend something you wouldn’t like. I want you to choose for your own build and aesthetics. Ask me here: Say Hi 🙂 and I’ll guide you in the process.

In terms of storage, you can always buy for more than 1GB or jump with SSD first. Click here to know why: Build a PC for VR.

When we’re talking about PSU, my first recommendation is the Seasonic S12II. Not just it’s cheap but also it’s realiable and make your components safe from sudden fluctuations. I also don’t use AVR/UPS. I just plug it in the AC slot.

My current PC setup, I used the DeepCool PSU and it seems fine for 2k PHP 80 plus bronze PSU. I don’t know about you but it works for almost 3 years.

Like what always said. You can always choose for your own PC Case. This is something very personal and I want you to choose your own case aesthetics. If you’re using ITX or M series motherboard. I would suggest to choose the best mini case out there to fully utilize your money.

Parts Name Lazada (affiliate links)
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.20-3.60Ghz 6-Core Processor View
GPU Gigabyte RX 580 4GB Gaming (GV-RX580GAMING-4GD) View
Motherboard MSI B350M Bazooka View
RAM GSkill Ripjaws V 8GB Dual DDR4 3200 (F4-3200C16D-8GVKB) View
HDD Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB WD10EZEX View
PSU Seasonic S12II 520W 80PLUS Bronze View
CASE Tecware F3 Mini Tower Gaming Case usb3.0 View
Total ₱38,540.00

If you want to view where to buy your gaming PC parts, you may want to check it here: (affiliate link) View here . Fill up and search the parts you want to assemble, click checkout and you’re good to go.

Check out our latest 2018 build guide: Gaming PC Philippines 2018 PUBG Ready!

 

Tech Guide

Ryzen Gaming PC: 30k Budget Build Guide with 1050Ti

Hi GameBuildPC Builders! Welcome to our new Gaming PC Build Guide. Today, we will discuss something we’re all waiting for. Here it is, a 30k quad(4)-core Ryzen Gaming PC with 1050Ti Budget Build for 2017!

Oops, hold on for a sec. Before diving into the build guide, I’d like to discuss few things with you, my personal ideas and some facts I’ve researched. You might be thinking “Kevin, what is the big deal about the new AMD’s Ryzen CPU? Is it just a hype? or what?” Well to answer that, here’s my few thoughts about the new Ryzen CPUs.

You might consider it a hype but personally, it’s not a hype or what. To cut it short, it just proved that these CPUs (Ryzen 5 and 7) can nearly compete with Intel’s i5 and i7 processors. Yes, not in today’s standard but Ryzen has a promising future development that can overcome its competitor in upcoming years.

“But for how long?” you might ask.

AMD promises that it will support AM4 socket up to 2020 and is not planning to replace the socket until DDR5 and PCI Express 4.0 are available. Source: LinusTechTips

So we can expect more future upgrades and DDR5 RAM support!

You see, based on popular benchmarks out there, Gaming in Ryzen 7 1700 can’t beat the Intel’s i7 7700k in specific games but in terms of rendering? Ryzen used as workstation is faster compare to i7 7700k!

Workstation with Ryzen Source: GamersNexus

Recent AAA games are designed to work with Intel’s processors, threading, memory cache, etc. So gaming developers are now seeing AMD’s Ryzen as a resource to make their games optimized and make use its additional cores for better performance.

Gaming with Ryzen Source: PCPer

As concluded by PCPer, “Gaming performance isn’t anything to scuff about, especially for an 8-core 16-thread CPU that beats the i7 7700K in almost all non-gaming benchmarks. For pure gaming though, single-thread and higher clock performance is still king.”

So here’s a couple things you need to consider when buying Ryzen. Before typing any non-related comments, I know some of you do. I’d suggest to read this and comment down below your ideas and suggestions so we can learn together as we go along with it.

  1. Ryzen CPU is not for everyone. If you are an enthusiast PC builder(for workstation and gamer), the good spot for you is the Ryzen 7 1700 and 1800x series. I know that i7 7700k is a bit cheaper and you might want to consider buying it because it will give you more FPS on recent AAA games compare to Ryzen 1700. But if you look closely, 1700 has a huge room for future development having its 8-cores and 12 threads. While a 4-cores cpu might not.
  2. If you just want a fair performance, as we called performance-wise PC Builder. Ryzen 5 1600 is the best for you. With its 6-cores and 12 threads will easily overcome the i5 series and almost beat the i7 processor in some games.
  3. if you want Ryzen right now that could fit with your allocated budget which is less than 30k, You might want to consider having Ryzen 5 1400. A quad-core 8 threads that can compete with i5 7400 & 7600 by having more threads but less money to spend.

If you want to have an Intel Gaming PC worth 30k, you might want to check it out here: 30k Kabylake Gaming PC

So without further ado, Here’s the 30k Ryzen Gaming PC build guide 2017:

Components Parts Lazada (affiliate links)
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 1400 3.20-3.40Ghz 4-Core Processor View
Motherboard MSI B350M PRO-VDH View
GPU Gigabyte GTX 1050 TI OC 4GB GDDR5 View
RAM Gskill Aegis 8GB Single DDR4 2400 CL15 (F4-2400C15S-8GIS) View
HDD Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB WD10EZEX View
PSU Seasonic S12II 520W 80PLUS Bronze View
₱30,010.00

There you go, let me know your ideas and if you want to know more build guides just comment below and we will discuss it.

Wait, as you can see there’s something I didn’t included in here: No case. Yes, it’s your preference as PC builder what kind of case you want to buy because I received a lot of questions what to get and the difference of those stuff. If you insist here’s a NZXT s340 case: (affiliate link) View here

If you want to view where to buy your gaming PC parts, you may want to check it here: (affiliate link) View here. Fill up and search the parts you want to assemble, click checkout and you’re good to go.

Check out our latest 2018 build guide: Gaming PC Philippines 2018 PUBG Ready!

 

Tech News

AMD launches 7th gen APUs and AM4 platform: Is it already late?

A big surprise for AMD to launch its seventh generation APU and its latest AM4 platform to mainly support DDR4, latest I/O standard and its newly announced Zen processors which will be arriving hopefully early next year.

From the previous tech guide which you can read here I featured the AMD Godavari 7890k APU but this time I am pretty excited about the seventh generation APU: The highest end A12- 9800 that has four Excavator CPU cores that has been clocked up to 4.2 Ghz combined with Radeon R7 graphic cores clocked at 1108Mhz running as one at a TDP of 65W. But not just that, they also have the energy efficient version known as A12-9800E that runs with a TDP of 35W but obviously with step-down CPU and GPU clocks.

 

AMD 7th gen apu

 

Enough with the APUs and let’s talk about its latest platform : “AM4” which was built with a unified infrastructure, providing compatibility for AMD’s entire upcoming processor range, from the A-series to the upcoming Summit Ridge Zen processors. Meaning that this board will support the latest Zen processor that will be released next year.

But the thing is, maybe they are far behind with their competitors with releasing of latest support for DDR4 but the big surprise is about the AMD’s Zen processor boosted them up from everyone’s lips.

However, I will not be surprised if their competitors will release another CPU Gen or that can match up with Zen just like what happened with RX480 faced with GTX 1060.

AM4 platform has new features include

  • DDR4 memory support
  • PCIe Gen 3
  • USB 3.1
  • support for NVMe (Non-Volatile Memory express / a non-volatile memory like SSD that runs on PCIe bus)
  • SATA Express.

 

AMD 7th gen apu

 

Bottomline, this launch only applies to OEMs, so expect to see some new systems featuring AM4 and the new A-series APU with the different manufacturers so stay-tuned!

 

Give me your ideas and comments about the latest AMD launch and do you think is it late for AMD or there’s still a comeback?

Here’s our forum: Forum | Gamebuildpc Ask anything about computers and join our community 🙂

 

Tech Guide

AMD Godavari Gaming PC: Ultimate PC Build Guide

AMD Godavari Gaming PC: Ultimate Value Build Guide

 

Alright! Another build guide for our Gamebuildpc builders but this time, We’ll feature AMD and to tell you frankly, This build doesn’t need a graphics card.

AMD’s Godavari architecture CPU not only have Quad-core CPU on board but 47% of its Die(integrated circuit) area was powered by very powerful DirectX 11 Graphics processor. A scaled-down version of the same GCN architecture that you can also found from desktop radeon graphics cards.

 

Now, you might ask what is this built-in graphics” on AMD cpu? Why do I need an APU?

To answer that question, AMD’s system architecture (HSA),  Heterogeneous System Architecture. An improved processor design that exposes the benefits and capabilities of programmable compute elements, CPU and GPU working together seamlessly. It has the ability to treat both CPU cores and integrated graphics processing cores as equal that they can work together rather than working separately. Basically, our computers CPU and GPU communicate through relatively slow PCI-express bus.

hsa architecture
Image Credit: HSA AMD.com

But through HSA, these two processor can now access the same system memory to collaborate and work together as one. It also need an updated software to fully utilize its function to achieve it’s performance.

So with all that in mind let’s start with our parts!

  • #1.) A10 7890K 4.1-4.3 ghz 4-core.

This CPU or rather APU is not your grandpa’s CPU. But seriously, again a reminder APU contains both CPU and GPU components. On the CPU componet side, technically Steamroller microarchitecture does not signifacantly improved compare to previous Richland microarchitecture but this bad boy delivers low-power consumption without losing any performance.

While on GPU component side, this integrated graphics processor gives you an access to some serious performance features, aside from DirectX11, is AMD’s Mantle API that allows game developers to better optimize games like some triple A titles to make the most of their cpu and gpu power they have. A combination of DirectX11 and AMD Mantle API drivers.

And also, AMD True Audio DSP technology or Digital sound processor. This piece of processor on-board revolutionize audio technology that you can actually achieve out-game special effects, noise cancellation, echoes and also with in-game that bounces realistically on the objects accurately according to the players surrounding compare to some cheap software technology.

Lastly, the Dual-graphics capability to crossfire 1 GPU on your PCI-e bus with your APU. Basically it will run your APU on crossfire with your supported desktop graphics card for optimum performance improvements.

 

  • #2.) G.Skill Ripjaws Z (4X2) 8GB 2400MHz

Like what most of our build guides here in Gamebuildpc, I always suggest to grab yourself an 8GB RAM and call it a day. But in this AMD Godavari build guide, not just that we’ve found out that 8GB is the sweet-spot for most people unless you’re a content creator, video editor and uses heavy task but also that in addition to Dual-channel, DDR3 1600MHz there is a huge signifance and benefit using up to 2400MHz Dual-channel DDR3 memory.

So I went to G.Skill Ripjaws Z (4×2) 8GB 2400MHz cheapest memory card I’ve found in PCHub. This plain works why not give it a try. You can also select with the same specs from different manufacturers like Corsair and Kingston.

Remember that we’re using DDR3 not DDR4.

  • #3.) GA-F2A88XM-HD3P

For our motherboard, I wasn’t picky on selecting a motherboard here on our AMD Godavari build guide, I just went to PCHub page and select this FM2+ board. Please just make sure that youu should get the FM2+ and not the FM2.

FM2+ CPU’s are not backward compatible with FM2 boards, where as FM2+ boards will work just fine with FM2 CPU. So make sure before going to your favorite PC parts shop, FM2+ and FM2 labels should clearly identified before buying it well if you’re not sure just go ahead to your manufacturer’s website.

This board supports:

  1. for DDR3 2400(OC)
  2. for RAID 0
  3. for 4k UHD Display
  4. multiple independent display outputs simultaneously through AMD Eyefinity Technology

 

  • #4.) Cooler Master Hyper 212x

We could use the CPU cooler that comes free with your APU but this one Hyper 212x will give us a headroom for overclocking (if you want), this also looks better and sound quieter as a whole.

 

  • #5.) Zotac T500 120GB SSD

This is my personal choice. If you’ve read my previous build I highly suggest having an SSD right now and if you have few cash saved up you can buy a 1 or 2TB hard disk mainly for your movies and compilation of games. You’ll feel better as your loading / boot time roughly will take up to 6- 10 secs if your OS installed on SSD.

 

  • #6.) Optional ( R7 250 ) Graphics Card

This is an optional pick because this will fall under “upgrade-later” since we’re going to build a value optimized gaming system. But this R7 250 will work perfectly fine running on crossfire with your dedicated on-board graphics. This will improve your fps and performance on running some high end games later on down the line.

Thanks to Ace Cabusas, for bringing this up that using R7 370 series wouldn’t work crossfire / dual graphics with APU.

  • #7.) Seasonic S12II 520watts 80+ Bronze

Alright for our PSU, I went to Seasonic S12II a non-modular  power supply but has 80+ bronze certification. My entry level for a PSU that gives me confidence that my system will work just fine. They’re quiet and seasonic has a fantastic reputation in terms of their powersupply.

  • #8.) Cooler Master N300 Window Edition

It doesn’t have many frills but it looks pretty nice and decent for its price not to mention it is also window type case where you can see your build inside.

 

TL;DR:

Here we go, to sum it up- I hope you still read why I chose these components but if you have questions, recommendations, suggestions and any -tions just comment below we’ll discuss it and without further ado here’s the parts and price at PCHub :

 

PARTS COMPONENTS PRICES
APU A10 7890K 4.1-4.3 ghz 4-core PHP 7300
RAM G.Skill Ripjaws Z (4X2) 8GB 2400MHz PHP 2820
MOTHERBOARD GA-F2A88XM-HD3P PHP 3350
CPU FAN(optional) Cooler Master Hyper 212x PHP 1750
SSD Zotac T500 120GB PHP 1999
PSU Seasonic S12II 520watts 80+ Bronze PHP 2570
CASE Cooler Master N300 Window Edition PHP 2050
TOTAL PHP 21,839

In addition, if you’re going to use your stock fan and a Fractal design core 1000 USB3 case for Php 1660. The total price will become  Php 19,699 🙂

Here’s our forum: Forum | Gamebuildpc Ask anything about computers and join our community 🙂

Here’s a gameplay of Fallout 4 by youtuber:Soplox using AMD A10 7890k on 1080p. Btw, you can play this game through medium settings too and you’ll get a very satisfying results.

 

If you want me personally to build your PC, don’t be shy we’ll talk about that and I’ll ship it directly to you. 🙂 Click here to submit orders: https://goo.gl/forms/PtFGw5rtW6E2Q3SW2 Fill up the form and we will attend to you as soon as possible.

You can view all compatible parts here: View

Thanks!

 

Regards,

Kevin